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		<title>By: The Otherkin Problem</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-2497</link>
		<dc:creator>The Otherkin Problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] started with Avatar. Or, rather, I thought it did. In my review of the movie, I wrote about the &#8220;found belonging&#8221; that Jake experienced when he met the Na&#8217;vi [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] started with Avatar. Or, rather, I thought it did. In my review of the movie, I wrote about the &#8220;found belonging&#8221; that Jake experienced when he met the Na&#8217;vi [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moonfire</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1902</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...ironically I think that&#039;s one of the points the movie is trying to make.&quot;

I agree entirely.  Rather than the &quot;one white man to rule them all&quot; theory that some here express, I feel it is exactly the opposite.  Here is this man... this classic, American man.... jaded, military, incredibly transparent and shallow.  And he finds a better way.  He finds something his soul has longed for, in a species that could not be more different than his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;ironically I think that&#8217;s one of the points the movie is trying to make.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree entirely.  Rather than the &#8220;one white man to rule them all&#8221; theory that some here express, I feel it is exactly the opposite.  Here is this man&#8230; this classic, American man&#8230;. jaded, military, incredibly transparent and shallow.  And he finds a better way.  He finds something his soul has longed for, in a species that could not be more different than his own.</p>
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		<title>By: sheta</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1901</link>
		<dc:creator>sheta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so happy that my post inspired you to see the film and that it affected you the way it did me. I&#039;d hate to inspire someone who ended up hating the movie. ;) It&#039;s quite a moving and profound experience. I&#039;m not a very jaded person -- I find bitterness unrewarding and difficult to maintain, and why would anyone want to maintain something so unpleasant? I think some people use that as a shield, but it strikes me as tragic. &lt;em&gt;Avatar&lt;/em&gt; is a film that touches people on levels many people would prefer to leave untouched... and ironically I think that&#039;s one of the points the movie is trying to make.

Thank you for commenting, and I hope you&#039;ll stick around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so happy that my post inspired you to see the film and that it affected you the way it did me. I&#8217;d hate to inspire someone who ended up hating the movie. <img src='http://spiritcompanion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s quite a moving and profound experience. I&#8217;m not a very jaded person &#8212; I find bitterness unrewarding and difficult to maintain, and why would anyone want to maintain something so unpleasant? I think some people use that as a shield, but it strikes me as tragic. <em>Avatar</em> is a film that touches people on levels many people would prefer to leave untouched&#8230; and ironically I think that&#8217;s one of the points the movie is trying to make.</p>
<p>Thank you for commenting, and I hope you&#8217;ll stick around.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonfire</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1900</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my first comment to this blog... I literally *stumbled upon* this site... and I must say it has answered many questions for me.  This is the first actual blog entry I&#039;ve read here, and it inspired me to find a way to watch Avatar.  (I have two very young children, so it&#039;s not easy to get out of the house)  I&#039;ve just returned from watching it.  The movie affected me much the same way it did to you... I am crying as I type this.  I&#039;m a major weeper, so it&#039;s not a stretch to imagine my tearful eyes in the movie theater.  However, I&#039;m in a sort of mourning now... for the &quot;oneness&quot; that never is.  For the beauty that is not.

Then again, I have been inspired to resume my journey bringing this to the isolated humanity we all live with now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first comment to this blog&#8230; I literally *stumbled upon* this site&#8230; and I must say it has answered many questions for me.  This is the first actual blog entry I&#8217;ve read here, and it inspired me to find a way to watch Avatar.  (I have two very young children, so it&#8217;s not easy to get out of the house)  I&#8217;ve just returned from watching it.  The movie affected me much the same way it did to you&#8230; I am crying as I type this.  I&#8217;m a major weeper, so it&#8217;s not a stretch to imagine my tearful eyes in the movie theater.  However, I&#8217;m in a sort of mourning now&#8230; for the &#8220;oneness&#8221; that never is.  For the beauty that is not.</p>
<p>Then again, I have been inspired to resume my journey bringing this to the isolated humanity we all live with now.</p>
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		<title>By: sheta</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>sheta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! Yeah, it was a very powerful movie. I don&#039;t really get the people who are saying it was &quot;Dances with Wolves&quot; in space. I thought that the deeds performed by the white-guy-outsider were done in desperation to help the people he felt at home with -- not to show off or be better than they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! Yeah, it was a very powerful movie. I don&#8217;t really get the people who are saying it was &#8220;Dances with Wolves&#8221; in space. I thought that the deeds performed by the white-guy-outsider were done in desperation to help the people he felt at home with &#8212; not to show off or be better than they were.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1874</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. Great review.. I&#039;ve watched this movie a couple of times already and I must say it is very very very good. Compared to James Cameron&#039;s work, Titanic, this is so much better. How the movie depicts the outsiders destroying what the people love and cherish and how somebody raised in a very different way can begin to appreciate the roughness and beauty surrounding him.. 

Love your review.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. Great review.. I&#8217;ve watched this movie a couple of times already and I must say it is very very very good. Compared to James Cameron&#8217;s work, Titanic, this is so much better. How the movie depicts the outsiders destroying what the people love and cherish and how somebody raised in a very different way can begin to appreciate the roughness and beauty surrounding him.. </p>
<p>Love your review.. <img src='http://spiritcompanion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/happy.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sheta</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>sheta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s much more than &lt;em&gt;Dances with Wolves&lt;/em&gt;, agreed. The guy was making desperate choices, not inspired ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s much more than <em>Dances with Wolves</em>, agreed. The guy was making desperate choices, not inspired ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarenth</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarenth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I guess, for me, it ruffles my fur that people say it is &quot;Dances With Wolves&quot; in space.  It may share threads of similarity in it, but it doesn&#039;t suffuse you with the world in the way that Avatar has.  Dances was like a window into another time; this movie is like stepping through a door.

This movie doesn&#039;t give the white man an out: he has to do more than any Na&#039;avi to prove himself.  It also doesn&#039;t, in my opinion, caricature the plight that Native Americans went through, but makes the similarity in treatment burn through the film.  I actually had participatory emotional responses to the film, which alone is good because I usually don&#039;t, and the immersion into the Pandoran world simply brought more out of me. 

I left the movie changed, maybe not completely, but like I&#039;d had a vision of something that I might be able to plug into, or at least come to understand after my own fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I guess, for me, it ruffles my fur that people say it is &#8220;Dances With Wolves&#8221; in space.  It may share threads of similarity in it, but it doesn&#8217;t suffuse you with the world in the way that Avatar has.  Dances was like a window into another time; this movie is like stepping through a door.</p>
<p>This movie doesn&#8217;t give the white man an out: he has to do more than any Na&#8217;avi to prove himself.  It also doesn&#8217;t, in my opinion, caricature the plight that Native Americans went through, but makes the similarity in treatment burn through the film.  I actually had participatory emotional responses to the film, which alone is good because I usually don&#8217;t, and the immersion into the Pandoran world simply brought more out of me. </p>
<p>I left the movie changed, maybe not completely, but like I&#8217;d had a vision of something that I might be able to plug into, or at least come to understand after my own fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: sheta</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1810</link>
		<dc:creator>sheta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there is an element of &quot;one white man to rule them all&quot; ala &lt;em&gt;Dances with Wolves&lt;/em&gt; to this, to me it was a standard plot given as an excuse to make a truly transcendent film -- not the other way around. I like Cameron, not as a person but I like his movies as entertainment. This movie was not entertainment. It reached inside me, past my mind that was thinking &quot;same plot, different movie,&quot; to the place that &lt;em&gt;knew&lt;/em&gt; what was happening. The protagonist, Jake Sully, yeah, he does things the natives couldn&#039;t do (or only rarely) better, but not because he was white or special -- but because he was desperate to reach them to &lt;em&gt;help&lt;/em&gt; save them. He wasn&#039;t rescuing, he wasn&#039;t one-upping, he was making desperate choices because of love, for them and for his lady. Some of it is trite, but I see many, many differences. 

You could throw the entire plot out the window, for all I care. Take the white people out of it. Just give me what the Na&#039;vi have &#8212; that profound, we&#039;ll-never-see-it-on-this-planet (native or not) &lt;em&gt;connection&lt;/em&gt;, and let it transport me somewhere other, somewhere that is home. These people have/had something that N.A.s can&#039;t hope to touch because the way our planet functions is nothing like Pandora. And that&#039;s what takes it to the spirit realm, for me.

I understand your feelings, despite my own purely ignorant upbringing. I spent my childhood feeling I&#039;d been born in the wrong time and race; I daydreamed constantly of being native American. But though I was reminded of that historical wrongness and the plight of our natives, this movie takes it to a whole other level. Outside of plot trappings, this movie is so far from &lt;em&gt;Dance with Wolves&lt;/em&gt; that it should speak to all races. I hope you will see it. I hope you will understand what I mean. Similarities, yes. Same-same, no.

*hugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there is an element of &#8220;one white man to rule them all&#8221; ala <em>Dances with Wolves</em> to this, to me it was a standard plot given as an excuse to make a truly transcendent film &#8212; not the other way around. I like Cameron, not as a person but I like his movies as entertainment. This movie was not entertainment. It reached inside me, past my mind that was thinking &#8220;same plot, different movie,&#8221; to the place that <em>knew</em> what was happening. The protagonist, Jake Sully, yeah, he does things the natives couldn&#8217;t do (or only rarely) better, but not because he was white or special &#8212; but because he was desperate to reach them to <em>help</em> save them. He wasn&#8217;t rescuing, he wasn&#8217;t one-upping, he was making desperate choices because of love, for them and for his lady. Some of it is trite, but I see many, many differences. </p>
<p>You could throw the entire plot out the window, for all I care. Take the white people out of it. Just give me what the Na&#8217;vi have &mdash; that profound, we&#8217;ll-never-see-it-on-this-planet (native or not) <em>connection</em>, and let it transport me somewhere other, somewhere that is home. These people have/had something that N.A.s can&#8217;t hope to touch because the way our planet functions is nothing like Pandora. And that&#8217;s what takes it to the spirit realm, for me.</p>
<p>I understand your feelings, despite my own purely ignorant upbringing. I spent my childhood feeling I&#8217;d been born in the wrong time and race; I daydreamed constantly of being native American. But though I was reminded of that historical wrongness and the plight of our natives, this movie takes it to a whole other level. Outside of plot trappings, this movie is so far from <em>Dance with Wolves</em> that it should speak to all races. I hope you will see it. I hope you will understand what I mean. Similarities, yes. Same-same, no.</p>
<p> <img src='http://spiritcompanion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/bighug.gif' alt='*hugs*' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fannyfae</title>
		<link>http://spiritcompanion.com/2010/01/05/experience-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-1809</link>
		<dc:creator>fannyfae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your review , so far, is the only one that has inspired me to *possibly* see this film.  As a filmaker and someone in the industry I absolutely diispise James Cameron . He is a complete jerk. His budget for marketing and promotion on this film went way past the mark of irresponsible  and vulgar. It really is going to take them years to recoup the cost.    

The second issue I have is the whole &quot;one white man to rule them all&quot; sort of tone.  I grew up around the American Indian Movement,I cut my teeth on radical (!!!) Native American tribal papers. The names of Anna Mae,  Leonard Peltier, Russell Means, John Trudell, and Dennis Banks were said around our dinner table on a nightly basies. Wounded Knee and Alcatraz are images I will never be able to wipe from my brain  To say that I have tasted and seen and experienced the bitterness and stark reality of that fight that continues even now is an understatement.  The whole patronising double standard of  Dances with Wolves., Pocahontas, etc etc is an old problem that it sticks with you.  

Being as I do work with spirits and know what it is to deal with the Fae, I may see it.  It&#039;s a great deal to think about.  The healing has to come sometime.  At what point do we say oh well, these horrible things happened, but here is this new shiny and we&#039;ve given it a Hollywood ending with lots of marketing bucks behind it so it goes down a bit easier.   It will depend how my ancestors react to it - because I have to listen to them just as much as I do the other spirits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your review , so far, is the only one that has inspired me to *possibly* see this film.  As a filmaker and someone in the industry I absolutely diispise James Cameron . He is a complete jerk. His budget for marketing and promotion on this film went way past the mark of irresponsible  and vulgar. It really is going to take them years to recoup the cost.    </p>
<p>The second issue I have is the whole &#8220;one white man to rule them all&#8221; sort of tone.  I grew up around the American Indian Movement,I cut my teeth on radical (!!!) Native American tribal papers. The names of Anna Mae,  Leonard Peltier, Russell Means, John Trudell, and Dennis Banks were said around our dinner table on a nightly basies. Wounded Knee and Alcatraz are images I will never be able to wipe from my brain  To say that I have tasted and seen and experienced the bitterness and stark reality of that fight that continues even now is an understatement.  The whole patronising double standard of  Dances with Wolves., Pocahontas, etc etc is an old problem that it sticks with you.  </p>
<p>Being as I do work with spirits and know what it is to deal with the Fae, I may see it.  It&#8217;s a great deal to think about.  The healing has to come sometime.  At what point do we say oh well, these horrible things happened, but here is this new shiny and we&#8217;ve given it a Hollywood ending with lots of marketing bucks behind it so it goes down a bit easier.   It will depend how my ancestors react to it &#8211; because I have to listen to them just as much as I do the other spirits.</p>
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